Hawaiian Electric Industries, Inc. (HE) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call presents mixed signals. Financial performance has improved from a net loss to a net income, but core net income has decreased due to higher expenses. The Q&A reveals concerns about financing and regulatory uncertainties, including the potential for a rate case pivot and unclear management responses. The dividend approval is a positive, yet the strategic focus on debt for settlements and capital expenditures introduces risk. The overall sentiment is neutral, reflecting a balance between positive financial recovery and potential regulatory and financial challenges.
Key Financial Performance
Net Income for 2025 $123.1 million or $0.71 per share, compared to a net loss of approximately $1.4 billion in 2024. The improvement includes $16.5 million of pretax Maui wildfire-related expenses net of insurance recoveries and deferrals.
Consolidated Core Net Income for 2025 $149.3 million or $0.86 per share, compared to $124.3 million or $0.98 per share in 2024. The decrease was due to higher O&M expenses, higher interest expense, higher depreciation, and the recognition of tax credit benefits in the previous year.
Utility Core Net Income for 2025 $177.5 million, compared to $180.7 million in 2024. The decrease was driven by higher O&M expenses, higher interest expense, higher depreciation, and the recognition of tax credit benefits in the previous year.
Holding Company Core Net Loss for 2025 $28.2 million, compared to $56.4 million in 2024. The improvement was driven by lower interest expense due to the lower debt balance and higher interest income from cash held for settlement payment.
Unrestricted Cash on Hand (End of Q4 2025) $16 million at the holding company and $486 million at the utility.
Liquidity Available (End of Q4 2025) $530 million at the holding company and $540 million at the utility, under various credit facilities and programs.
Quarterly Dividend (Q4 2025) $10 million approved by Hawaiian Electric's Board of Directors to HEI.
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Operating Highlights
Wildfire Safety Improvements: Implemented wildfire safety improvements that have reduced the risk of ignition from utility equipment. The utility's 3-year wildfire safety strategy was approved by the PUC, and many operational objectives were achieved ahead of schedule.
Financial Flexibility: Successfully issued $500 million in utility debt and increased revolver size to $600 million to support financial flexibility and liquidity.
Renewable Energy Progress: Achieved a 37% renewable portfolio standard (RPS) in 2025, on track to meet the 40% statutory RPS requirement by 2030.
Customer Affordability: Maintained stable customer bills in 2025 despite significant investments in wildfire safety and resilience. Provided over $1 million in payment assistance to working families.
Maui Wildfire Tort Settlement: Progressed towards final court approval of the Maui wildfire tort settlement, resolving contingencies and appeals. Finalized settlements for shareholder class action and derivative lawsuits, fully funded by insurance proceeds.
Legislative Measures: Supported Hawaii's historic wildfire legislation, which includes a liability cap and wildfire fund. The PUC's wildfire fund study was completed, and rule-making is expected to take 18-24 months.
Rate Rebasing: Pursuing an alternative process for rate rebasing to reset rates without the traditional time and resource costs. A joint proposal with UluPono initiative is planned for submission by March 6.
Executive Transition: Announced CFO transition with Paul Ito resuming the role effective April 2, 2026, as Scott DeGhetto steps down.
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Risk or Challenges
Maui wildfire tort settlement: The company is still working to resolve the conditions to payment in the tort litigation settlement agreements, including resolving all outstanding appeals. This process has delayed the first settlement payment, now expected in the second half of 2026.
Wildfire safety and resilience investments: Significant investments in wildfire safety and resilience have been made, but these have added financial pressure. The company is pursuing low-cost financing options to mitigate customer impacts, but affordability remains a concern.
Regulatory framework and rate rebasing: The company is pursuing an alternative process for rate rebasing to avoid the time, costs, and resources of a full rate case proceeding. However, this process is still under development and subject to regulatory approval.
Elevated capital investment cycle: Projected capital expenditures for 2026-2028 are significantly elevated, ranging from $550 million to $850 million annually. This could strain financial resources and impact customer affordability.
Insurance and litigation risks: The company has resolved some litigation related to the Maui wildfires, but ongoing appeals and settlement financing plans (including reliance on debt and equity) pose financial and operational risks.
Performance-based regulation (PBR) framework: The company is addressing elements of the PBR framework that need improvement, including annual inflationary adjustments and performance incentive mechanisms. These regulatory uncertainties could impact financial performance.
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Guidance & Outlook
2026 Objectives: The company will focus on advancing the tort settlement and rate rebasing process while implementing wildfire risk reduction measures outlined in the wildfire safety strategy.
Rate Rebasing: The company is pursuing an alternative process for resetting rates without the time, costs, and resources typically required for a full rate case proceeding. A joint rebasing proposal with UluPono initiative will be submitted by March 6, 2026.
PBR Regulatory Framework: The company plans to address elements for improvement under the PBR framework, including annual inflationary adjustments and performance incentive mechanisms (PIMS). Further guidance from the PUC on Phase 6 is expected after the rebasing proposal submission.
Capital Expenditures (CapEx): Projected CapEx for 2026 is $550 million to $700 million, increasing to $600 million to $800 million in 2027 and $600 million to $850 million in 2028. This is subject to additional PUC approvals and further resource adequacy initiatives.
Wildfire Safety Strategy Financing: The company plans to submit a request to finance wildfire safety strategy CapEx and other infrastructure resilience costs via securitization, which is typically the lowest cost of capital available for these types of investments.
Settlement Payment Timeline: The first $479 million settlement payment is expected to be made in the second half of 2026, contingent on resolving outstanding appeals.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Quarterly Dividend: Hawaiian Electric's Board of Directors approved a $10 million quarterly dividend to HEI for the fourth quarter of 2025.
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Key Q&A
Q:What are the chances the Hawaii Supreme Court takes up the latest appeal by the insurers?
A:Scott W. Seu stated that the only remaining item is the subrogation appeal of the earlier summary judgment dismissing their claims. No briefing has been scheduled yet, and while he refrained from speculating on the Supreme Court's decision, he noted that previous decisions by the Circuit Court and State Supreme Court have been supportive of the settlements.
Q:What are the latest thoughts on financing the second settlement payment?
A:Scott Deghetto mentioned that the plan remains to relever HEI through debt or convertible debt, with a current preference for convertible debt based on market conditions. Financing will not occur until after the settlement is approved, and the payment will be made within 30 days of approval. The timing of raising funds will depend on market conditions.
Q:Do you expect to use the $250 million ATM program for financing your capital program?
A:Scott Deghetto stated that the ATM program is an option and will be used opportunistically depending on market conditions. Paul Ito was also mentioned to provide further insights on utility financing.
Q:What is the plan for selling the remaining 10% stake in American Savings Bank?
A:Scott Deghetto confirmed the intention to divest the remaining 9.9% stake in American Savings Bank in 2026, subject to market conditions and the bank's performance.
Q:What are the key elements of the upcoming March 6 joint proposal for PBR rebasing?
A:Scott W. Seu highlighted elements such as the inflationary adjustment factor, a true-up mechanism, PIM redesign to ensure influenceable outcomes, potential returns from PIMs, and expanding the scope of the exceptional project recovery mechanism (EPRM).
Q:What would cause a pivot back to a traditional 2027 test year rate case?
A:Joe Viola explained that the only reason for pivoting to a 2027 test year rate case would be if the rebasing proposal is denied.
Q:What are the top 2-3 PIM changes being pursued in the redesign?
A:Joe Viola emphasized the need for targets that are reasonably set and achievable, with a focus on reducing the total number of PIMs to make them more manageable. The goal is to align with the commission's past support for 150-200 basis points of incremental earnings power above the authorized ROE.
Q:What are the 2026 milestones for the liability cap, wildfire fund, and securitization?
A:Scott W. Seu outlined the milestones, including the 18-24 month PUC rule-making process for the limitation of liability, which began at the start of the year. This process involves data gathering, proposed rules, public comments, and finalization. The wildfire fund will be addressed after the rule-making process, and no legislative actions are expected this year.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided directly addressing the chances of the Hawaii Supreme Court taking up the insurers' appeal, as Scott W. Seu refrained from speculating on the court's decision. Additionally, the response on the use of the $250 million ATM program was vague, with no specific details provided on its potential usage or cadence of issuances.
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Hawaiian Electric Industries, Inc. (HE) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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