Apollo Global Management, Inc. (APO) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call highlights robust financial performance, with strong SRE and FRE growth projections, record-high net invested assets, and substantial fee-generating AUM. The Q&A section reveals confidence in strategic initiatives like global origination and expansion into new markets, despite some uncertainties in performance fee predictability. Overall, the positive outlook on asset management and new market entries outweighs the minor concerns, suggesting a likely positive stock price movement.
Key Financial Performance
Combined Fee-Related Earnings and Spread-Related Earnings $5.9 billion, driving adjusted net income of $5.2 billion, up 14% year-over-year. The increase was attributed to broad-based strength across the business and exceptional execution.
Fee-Related Earnings (FRE) $2.5 billion for the year, up 23% year-over-year. Growth was driven by strong capital deployment, robust growth at Athene, and increasing contributions from third-party asset management inflows.
Spread-Related Earnings (SRE) $3.4 billion of normalized earnings, up 9% year-over-year. Growth attributed to robust origination and consistent spread performance.
Origination Volume Record volume of over $300 billion, with a robust consistent spread of 350 basis points over treasuries and an average rating of BBB. Growth attributed to strong investment performance and origination capabilities.
Capital Formation Record inflows of $228 billion, marking the third straight record year. Growth driven by both Athene and Asset Management.
Investment Performance All buckets of credit up 8% to 12%, hybrid value up 16%, and Fund X achieving a 22% net IRR. Strong performance attributed to disciplined investment strategies and a principal's mindset.
Net Invested Assets at Athene $292 billion, up 18% year-over-year. Growth driven by robust retail inflows, record funding agreement issuance, and strong reinsurance.
Capital Solutions Fees $226 million in Q4, exceeding $800 million for the full year. Growth attributed to diversified transaction activity and proprietary origination capabilities.
Fee-Generating AUM $709 billion, up 25% year-over-year. Growth driven by strong inflows into credit and equity strategies and robust growth at Athene.
Realized Performance Fees $588 million in Q4, driven by carry from several strategies including Fund X and Accord Plus.
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Operating Highlights
Origination: Record volume crossed the $300 billion mark with robust consistent spread, 350 basis points over treasuries with an average rating of BBB.
New Markets: Expansion into 6 markets beyond institutional Alts portfolios, including individuals, insurance, debt and equity buckets of institutional clients, traditional asset managers, and 401(k) market.
Private Investment Grade ETF: PRIV ETF with State Street now approaches $700 million in size and is among the top performers of investment-grade ETFs.
Capital Formation: Record inflows of $228 billion, including $18 billion from individual markets and $15 billion from third-party insurance.
Global Wealth Business: Fundraising totaled $18 billion, up nearly 50% year-over-year, with 9 strategies raising more than $500 million each.
Retirement Services: Record $83 billion inflows driven by retail inflows, funding agreement issuance, and reinsurance.
Fee-Related Earnings (FRE): $2.5 billion for the year, up 23% year-over-year.
Spread-Related Earnings (SRE): $3.4 billion of normalized SRE, up 9% year-over-year.
Origination Spreads: Generated excess spread of 290 basis points over treasuries for investment-grade origination and 490 basis points for sub-investment-grade origination.
Principal's Mindset: Focus on long-term ownership and disciplined investment, avoiding overexposure to high-risk sectors like software.
Global Expansion: Increased focus on Europe and Asia for third-party insurance and capital formation.
Technology and AI: Investments in next-generation technology platforms, data, and AI initiatives to enhance operational efficiency.
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Risk or Challenges
Regulatory hurdles: The transcript mentions the need to refer to Apollo's SEC filings for risk factors, indicating potential regulatory challenges that could impact operations or strategic objectives.
Economic uncertainties: The CEO discusses the increased probability of outcomes outside of established lanes or playing fields, highlighting the need to account for macroeconomic risks and uncertainties in investment strategies.
Competitive pressures: The CEO mentions the competitive moat created by Apollo's historical investment in origination, suggesting that competitors are trying to catch up, which could pose challenges to maintaining market leadership.
Market conditions: The President discusses the overreaction in the software market and the need for selectivity in investments, indicating potential risks from market volatility and valuation corrections.
Strategic execution risks: The CFO highlights the need for significant investments in technology, data, and AI initiatives to support growth, which could pose execution risks if not managed effectively.
Supply chain disruptions: No explicit mention of supply chain disruptions in the transcript.
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Guidance & Outlook
Future Growth in Asset Management: Outlook for 2026 includes 20%+ growth in fee-related earnings (FRE) for Asset Management. This growth is driven by established core businesses and newer initiatives such as Apollo Sports Capital and Athora's acquisition of PIC.
Retirement Services Growth: Demand for retirement income is expected to increase, with projected inflows of approximately $85 billion in 2026, up from $80 billion in 2025. Over $5 billion of these inflows will come from markets entered within the last 18 months.
Spread-Related Earnings (SRE) Growth: SRE growth is expected to remain durable, with a 10% increase projected for 2026 and reaffirmed 10% annual growth through 2029.
Market Expansion: Apollo is expanding from serving one market to six, including individuals, insurance, debt and equity buckets of institutional clients, traditional asset managers, and the 401(k) market. These markets are expected to mature and grow significantly over time.
Global Wealth and Insurance Growth: Global Wealth fundraising is expected to continue growing, with $18 billion raised in 2025 and further expansion anticipated. Third-party insurance mandates are also growing, with a robust pipeline in Europe and Asia.
Capital Formation and Origination: Capital formation momentum is expected to continue, with meaningful organic inflows across asset management and Athene in every channel in 2026. Origination capabilities are projected to expand further, building on the $305 billion originated in 2025.
Principal Mindset in Investments: Apollo emphasizes a principal's mindset for long-term asset ownership, focusing on risk and reward. This approach is expected to position the company well for future market conditions.
Dividend Growth: Annual per share dividend is set to increase by 10% from $2.04 to $2.25, starting in the first quarter of 2026.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Dividends Paid in 2025: Apollo returned approximately $1.5 billion to shareholders via dividends and repurchases during the year.
Increase in Annual Dividend: Apollo intends to increase the annual per share dividend amount by 10% from $2.04 to $2.25, commencing with the first quarter of 2026.
Commitment to Dividend Growth: Apollo plans to grow dividends approximately 10% annually, or roughly half the growth rate of FRE.
Share Repurchases in 2025: Apollo returned approximately $1.5 billion to shareholders via dividends and repurchases during the year.
Immunization of Equity-Based Compensation: Share repurchases were used to immunize equity-based compensation.
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Key Q&A
Q:Can you unpack the implications of the ARI transaction for SRE, particularly regarding its impact on spread and growth for Athene?
A:Marc Rowan explained that the ARI transaction involves transferring a portfolio at fair market value from a public company trading at a discount to NAV to Athene and other third-party buyers. This move is aimed at achieving durable spread and safe yield. The transaction helps de-risk the year and supports the 10% SRE growth target but is not expected to be additive beyond that.
Q:What are the dynamics in the nontraded BDC space and ADS, and how does the competitive position of ADS look over the next 6 to 12 months?
A:James Zelter highlighted that ADS has maintained a consistent philosophy of 100% senior secured, first lien, no PIK, and no ARR, which has resonated well. Despite some redemptions, net new assets grew by over $5 billion last year. ADS is expected to capture greater market share due to its selective approach and alignment with investor needs.
Q:What are the implications of recent market volatility on institutional LPs and their allocation strategies?
A:Marc Rowan noted that market volatility is leading to increased dispersion among managers and a shift in LPs' allocation strategies. Many are moving from equity exposure to first lien debt for better risk-adjusted returns. Institutional growth is expected to accelerate, with a focus on fixed income replacement and other non-alternative buckets.
Q:What is the outlook for the total portfolio approach and its adoption by large pensions?
A:James Zelter stated that adoption of the total portfolio approach by large pensions will be measured and gradual. Institutions are exploring opportunities outside traditional asset classes to achieve better risk-adjusted returns. Marc Rowan added that public market volatility could accelerate this shift.
Q:How does Apollo plan to expand its origination strategy globally and its impact on FRE margins?
A:James Zelter explained that Apollo is taking its origination strategy global, focusing on quality and scale, particularly in Europe and Asia-Pacific. Marc Rowan emphasized the importance of building capabilities to serve new markets. Martin Kelly projected a 100 basis points annual FRE margin expansion as the platform grows.
Q:What is the outlook for fundraising in 2026, and what factors contribute to Apollo's confidence?
A:James Zelter expressed confidence in surpassing the $150 billion annual fundraising target due to strong performance in Global Wealth, institutional business, and Athene's channels. New product sets like asset-backed and hybrid ecosystems are expected to drive growth.
Q:What is the outlook for performance fees in 2026, and how does market activity influence this?
A:Martin Kelly stated that performance fees are unpredictable and depend on market conditions. Marc Rowan highlighted that Apollo's portfolio is well-positioned for value creation and exits, even in less accommodative markets.
Q:What are the dynamics in the pension risk transfer (PRT) segment and retail competition for Athene?
A:Marc Rowan noted that PRT volume is improving but remains focused on profitability rather than volume. Retail competition is present in lower-quality broker channels, but Athene's low-cost liability factory and asset origination capabilities make it a strong competitor.
Q:What is the progress and outlook for the 401(k) market and Apollo's strategy in this space?
A:Marc Rowan explained that the 401(k) market is evolving, with increasing interest in private assets and guaranteed lifetime income. Apollo is adapting its product set to meet these needs, focusing on daily NAV and liquidity. Collaboration with traditional asset managers is expected to grow.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing specific details on the pipeline of deal activity for performance fees in 2026, citing unpredictability and market dependence. Additionally, they did not elaborate on the exact contributions of the ARI transaction to net spread or the specific drivers of lower FAB flows.
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